Interview with Michael Babker Posted on August 5, 2014December 9, 2016 by Cal Evans @mbabker Audio https://media.blubrry.com/vote/elephpant.s3.amazonaws.com/vote_090.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | DownloadSubscribe: Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | RSS | More Show Noteshttps://www.babdev.com/